Dr Sondra Hausner draws on a wide anthropological experience spanning East and West to discuss approaches to cultural change, and solutions to the Insider-Outsider Debate. She meditates on the appeal of marginal communities for discerning scholars, showing how they highlight the elements of resistance and change that exist in classic Durkheimian theories of society. The conversation carries on to consider ritual, participant fieldwork, and the pendulum-like swing between sacred and profane in human life.